Here is the transcript from our TweetChat on Friday, August 26, 2011: Interracial Relationships and “Dating While Mixed.” If you didn’t get to participate and want to weigh in on this topic now, please leave a comment below and share your thoughts!
| swirlinc | Let’s get this #swirlchat party started! Chime in & let us know where you are, and what brings you here today! (don’t forget the #swirlchat) | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:59:28* |
| swirlinc | And then we will dive into the juicy topic of IR dating and “dating while mixed.” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:59:50 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc I can #swirlchat until the toddler wakes up! woo hoo! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:00:37 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @swirlinc: Let’s get this #swirlchat party started! Chime in & let us know where you are, and what brings you here today! (don’t… | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:00:47 |
| onlyONscripting | #SwirlChat Hi everyone! I’m Joel, a long-time lover of Swirl (the group). Looking forward to today’s convo to hera some insights! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:01 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I like that you indicated the group. Otherwise you would have sounded like an IR fetishist! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:41 |
| EddieN120 | Hey everybody! Eddie in the wilds of New Jersey here! Hope y’all weren’t too shook up by the quake! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:47 |
| EvaZelle | Hello, all. Used to be co-organizer of Swirl Atlanta. now in chicago, howdy! #swirlchat |
Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:54 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EddieN120 You ok up there? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:02:04 |
| onlyONscripting | @jenkchau Exactly! Didn’t want to start the convo on the wrong foot! 🙂 #Swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:02:09 |
| onlyONscripting | Welcome @EddieN120 @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud #SwirlChat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:02:50 |
| swirlinc | Great to have you all here! Hey Corina! And Joel and Kathrin! And Eddie of course… @ITYCPODCAST, nice to have you here! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:03:33 |
| EddieN120 | Yeah, Kathyrn, I’m good. Printing the “DID THE EARTH MOVE FOR YOU TOO?” shirts now 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:04:00 |
| EvaZelle | oh, swirlies, grad school has eaten my time. how i’ve missed the group. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:05:13 |
| jenkchau | Between the earthquake and Hurricane Irene…let’s see if this topic can get our minds off of the natural disasters for a while.. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:05:35 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc Thanks! I’m glad I can finally participate! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:00 |
| jenkchau | Hope it’s going well, Corina! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:09 |
| EddieN120 | Glad you could make it, @EvaZelle! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:37 |
| swirlinc | Ok – let’s get down to it. Is interracial dating still a big deal? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:43 |
| EddieN120 | And welcome back @ITYCPODCAST too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:07:02 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 Thanks Eddie! Long time no tweet! #swirlchat! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:03 |
| Dor_i_an | @swirlinc I think it was always be a big deal for a lot of people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:37 |
| jenkchau | I think that there is a lot more interracial dating (at least in NYC) these days, but I know people who still struggle with it… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:43 |
| EddieN120 | Is IR dating still a big deal in the US? Yes, and no. Yes, because we still see people like Keith Bardwell hit the headlines. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:53 |
| onlyONscripting | I say yes! I also think it’s evolved … not only do you have people against it, you have others that “crave” it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:53 |
| EddieN120 | But no, because we see surveys like that one about millenials being open to the idea. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:09:22 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc Considering how not postracial we are I understand why people keep talking abt it. I just hate THE WAY we talk abt. it #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:09:30 |
| EvaZelle | @swirlinc it effects relationships on many levels. in fact, i most don’t encounter racism until dating #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:09:53 |
| jenkchau | …people whose families struggle with it, more specifically. #swirlchat @swirlinc | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:00 |
| swirlinc | @ITYCPODCAST Can you say more about that? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:34 |
| onlyONscripting | @swirlinc Yes, I’d love to hear more, too! @ITYCPODCAST #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:52 |
| EddieN120 | My biggest pet peeve about how we talk about IR: making it always a black and white convo, as if other people don’t do it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:54 |
| swirlinc | @EvaZelle Interesting. I want to hear more about that too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:11:01 |
| FairOpportunity | Interracial dating is still a big deal, I think… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:11:38 |
| KathrinOutLoud | We have alot of open conversations about inter-racial dating and the struggles folks face with how their families respond to it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:11:44 |
| swirlinc | @FairOpportunity In what ways? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:01 |
| EddieN120 | WORD! RT @EvaZelle “it effects relationships on many levels. in fact, i most don’t encounter racism until dating” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:13 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 I agree. Things always get binary in IR dating talk #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:19 |
| FairOpportunity | Especially for those of us who are mixed already… No matter who we date we’re dating interracially… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:58 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST I would argue that things get binary/simplistic with talk about race in general! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | RT @FairOpportunity: Especially for those of us who are mixed already… No matter who we date we’re dating interracially… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:09 |
| EvaZelle | @swirlinc @EvaZelle when people think dating,they also subconsciously think “children” or “what would my family think” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:27 |
| sam_pierre | Good point! RT @jenkchau: @ITYCPODCAST I would argue that things get binary/simplistic with talk about race in general! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:30 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity I’m curious…when we say that all mixed people are always in IR relationships, what is underneath that? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:42 |
| swirlinc | @sam_pierre Welcome to the convo! So glad to have you here! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:05 |
| swirlinc | @FairOpportunity Thanks for joining us too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:24 |
| ITYCPODCAST | I also get frustrated with the kind of “womens'” magazine framing of the topic. No real critical context. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:35 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau so glad to be here Jen. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:49 |
| sam_pierre | @swirlinc Thanks! This is my very first #swirlchat 🙂 | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:05 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST Here here! There is definitely a fair share of objectification of IR relationships! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:09 |
| swirlinc | @sam_pierre Hopefully not your last! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:21 |
| onlyONscripting | It seems almost any interracial relationship is questioned … as in folks couldn’t just love each other, one has a fetish. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:25 |
| EvaZelle | Yes RT @FairOpportunity: Especially for those of us who are mixed already… No matter who we date were dating interracially… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:37 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting Yes- I get that vibe too…that people are curious about WHY you are with the other person. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:00 |
| Dor_i_an | Please join @swirlinc in a discussion on interracial dating. I know you all have something to say about the topic:) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:23 |
| EddieN120 | If you’re mixed then as I always say you’re IR dating by default! 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:33 |
| FairOpportunity | @jenkchau – no one race sees mixed people as their own… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:35 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau If I read another Essence/Glamour piece about IR dating, I’ll scream #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:47 |
| onlyONscripting | @jenkchau Which is fine, I guess, you ask that of any couple, but with IR, it ALWAYS goes to the “who’s into what race & why?” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:07 |
| EddieN120 | LOL @ITYCPODCAST, you know it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:13 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST I see screaming in your future. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:16 |
| EvaZelle | @swirlinc the ignorance typically follows comfort levels.who we are comfortable with as a pal might be different in bed #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:20 |
| EvaZelle | And this is a HUGE component of the conflict RT @FairOpportunity: @jenkchau – no one race sees mixed people as their own… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:54 |
| EddieN120 | IR dating is far too often like a litmus test for the people with whom we interact, strangers inclusive. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:18:25 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EvaZelle @FairOpportunity That’s so interesting. Do you thin that only folks who ID as mixed see them selves as in IR? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:18:26 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @onlyONscripting …and questions “do you always only date ___ people?” projecting their perception/fetish-like curiosity on you.#swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:01 |
| KathrinOutLoud | Speaking of objectification @JenkChau – have you felt that within relationships that you have been in too? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:23 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau @eddien120 I know. I’ll be a permanent Munch picture! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:37 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud Exactly! What’s even more disappointing? When it ends up being true! And the other party is participating. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:43 |
| EddieN120 | It can lead to paranoic questions like “Why are they looking at us? Is it because we look good together — OR SOMETHING ELSE?!” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:47 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: IR dating is far too often like a litmus test for the people with whom we interact, strangers inclusive. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:52 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Definitely gotten comments here & there. I have felt the most objectification when w a guy who was mixed too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:12 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @onlyONscripting Oh, I have briefly dated white folks who said things like “I only date black & brown women.” which ends things. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:12 |
| EddieN120 | People think they have the right to question your choice of date/partner esp. if they look like they’re diff. from you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:15 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Yikes! I can imagine! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:36 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: People think they have the right to question your choice of date/partner esp. if they look like they’re diff. from you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:50 |
| EddieN120 | re objectification: one of my sister-friends is Nigerian and Filipino. She’s always complaining that she gets the worst of… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:17 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 I agree. I think curiosity gets the best of people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:24 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @jenkchau That’s interesting! I’ve felt most marginalized by white & black folks I’ve dated…felt most at ease with mixed folk. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:30 |
| EvaZelle | RT@EddieN120: People think they have the right 2question your choice of date/partner esp. if they look like theyre diff. from you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:34 |
| EddieN120 | …both worlds. Guys who have “jungle fever” and guys who have “yellow fever” hit on her 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:47 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Just to clarify – not objectified by the guy, but by others, toward us as a couple! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:04 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud Good! It can’t go further? All they’re looking for is a shell–doesn’t matter about the personality filling it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:26 |
| jenkchau | Oh…if you want to know about partners objectifying me. It has happened A LOT. (insert endless stereotypes of Asian women here) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:45 |
| Dor_i_an | @swirlinc Im the product of an interracial couple but sometimes my stances on who can actually interaccially date are conflicted. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:49 |
| EddieN120 | She told me once that a dude walked up to her & said “What breed are you?” #worstchatuplineever #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:51 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @jenkchau gotcha…I was asking more from within the relationship by the partner #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:55 |
| swirlinc | @Dor_i_an ?? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:02 |
| EvaZelle | Such a disappointment RT @jenkchau: Oh…if you want to know about partners objectifying me. It has happened A LOT. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:25 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @ITYCPODCAST yep – its borderline racist…at minimum insensitive and disrespectful #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:40 |
| jenkchau | @EvaZelle Yea, but don’t worry. I took many opportunities to school them. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:54 |
| KathrinOutLoud | So hurtful! RT @jenkchau: Oh…if you want to know about partners objectifying me. It has happened A LOT. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:26 |
| EvaZelle | @jenkchau Good! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:27 |
| swirlinc | So how does objectification by a partner play out? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:47 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @Dor_i_an Can you say more about tht? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:47 |
| FairOpportunity | Here’s a curveball y’all: I’ve dated women from every mono-race. I’ve yet to date a mixed person. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:55 |
| EddieN120 | @jenkchau There is a positive out of the negative — the opportunity to teach people to behave better. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @FairOpportunity why do you think that is? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:12 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 That’s the hope! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:20 |
| FairOpportunity | … And not by choice. So question: Do you find that mixed people are often racist against their own? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:29 |
| EddieN120 | @FairOpportunity, c’mon man, hurry up, you gotta taste ALL of the rainbow! 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:32 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EddieN120 @JenKChau agreed…but always schooling potential partners sets up a really messed up power dynamic for relationship #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:05 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @KathrinOutLoud Yes! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:11 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 Eddie! (objectification, what?) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:34 |
| EddieN120 | I’ve seen some hatred of other mixies by other mixies, yes. But I wouldn’t say it happens often. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:55 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Oh absolutely. None of them were bound for success. There’s schooling & then there are mature conversations. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:15 |
| EvaZelle | @EddieN120 @FairOpportunity I agree, but add that it’s kinda tough to find mixies searching for other mixies #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:19 |
| FairOpportunity | @EddieN120, I’d like to dated mixed women, but I’ve found that they’re usually into, frankly, white men… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:23 |
| FairOpportunity | And I’m not sayin’ they’re hating on mixes, just that in dating they prefer dating whites. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:47 |
| EvaZelle | @FairOpportunity oof! well, if you’re in chicago…. haha #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:03 |
| jenkchau | I have not come across mixed people who “hate” other mixed people…but that’s probably because I’m in the business of Swirl. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:04 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @FairOpportunity I wonder how many mixies who date white folk were raised in predominantly white communities and if that matters #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:15 |
| EddieN120 | Oh Jen, my friend has so many dating horror stories she could write a book… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:22 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 I believe it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:36 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud sure. I’m black & puerto rican but sometimes when I see white women w. black men I feel a certain way. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:44 |
| kadavids | Sorry I’m late to the party #swirlchat! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:14 |
| swirlinc | @sam_pierre How do you feel about all of this? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:23 |
| FrenchieGlobal | Girl… RT @ITYCPODCAST @jenkchau If I read another Essence/Glamour piece about IR dating, I’ll scream #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:31 |
| EddieN120 | Haha “@FairOpportunity & @EvaZelle sittin’ in a tree/they are dat-ing in-ter-rac-ial-ly!” LMAO #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:49 |
| swirlinc | @kadavids Welcome! and Welcome @FrenchieGlobal #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:12 |
| onlyONscripting | @kadavids Welcome! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:25 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 What an instigator! 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:36 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud In my rational Black & Latinos share similar stories & experiences. So I dont have a problem w us being together. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:53 |
| FairOpportunity | Mature, @EddieN120… 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:54 |
| EddieN120 | Welcome @kadavids @FrenchieGlobal…we’re just planning weddings up in here… 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:32:16 |
| onlyONscripting | @Dor_i_an I can see that. There’s not the same oppression history that would be there if a white person was involved. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:32:48 |
| EvaZelle | @EddieN120 @FairOpportunity hey, i’m jus sayin’ #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:32:57 |
| swirlinc | @EddieN120 An unintended byproduct of joining #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:33:27 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @Dor_i_an @KathrinOutLoud I used to feel some kind of way abt it until I stopped thinking that every black man owed me a date. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:33:50 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I get that too…but a white person & a black or latino person can have a lot more in common than what you see. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:34:50 |
| FairOpportunity | @EvaZelle, Was born and raised in the Chi. Been a NYker for a decade now though. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:09 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I’m thinking about socioeconomic class, etc. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:37 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud i strongly feel the community in which you were raised plays a huge role as does who your parents approved #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:39 |
| EddieN120 | Just had an interesting fb convo with a man who is 25% indigenous (native Colombian) Spanish & black, identifies as only black. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:44 |
| Dor_i_an | @onlyONscripting Yes! We need 2 build our communities within our communities. Which includes our relationships and families. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:06 |
| sam_pierre | RT @EvaZelle: @KathrinOutLoud i strongly feel the community in which you were raised plays a huge role as does who your parents approved #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:22 |
| FairOpportunity | @jenkchau,agreed. I don’t hate on whites dating others. I just don’t get why so many mixed folk feel the need to date only whites #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:30 |
| EddieN120 | And thus doesn’t consider himself mixed, nor Latino! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:33 |
| EvaZelle | @FairOpportunity i do see many mixies in Chi and i’m such a dork, i smile whenever an IR couple w/baby in tow passes #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:33 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity I wonder if it goes back to my last comment. Maybe life experiences are really similar? I don’t know… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:09 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud It just sits better with me when their is some kind of shared experience and story. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:27 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity I have heard a lot of mixed people talk about growing up in homogeneous white communities and… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:40 |
| EvaZelle | i also believe mags and blogs love to blow up IR relationships to foster stigma #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:45 |
| EddieN120 | I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:53 |
| lawscribe | @KathrinOutLoud I was raised in predominantly white world and it absolutely effected my dating. @FairOpportunity #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:57 |
| onlyONscripting | @jenkchau Totally agree, which is especially nice if it’s another factor that builds the relationship. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:58 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity …not really identifying as a person of color until further exploration, etc. One theory. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:08 |
| EvaZelle | Yes RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:25 |
| jenkchau | @lawscribe My theory prevails! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:47 |
| EddieN120 | diff mags with diff agendas blow up diff IR dating scenarios eg ESSENCE & its BMWW obsession 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:49 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EvaZelle I agree abt the mag’s agenda. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:57 |
| EvaZelle | @lawscribe hey, buddy. nice to see you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:58 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EvaZelle: i also believe mags and blogs love to blow up IR relationships to foster stigma #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:01 |
| swirlinc | @lawscribe Welcome! So glad to have you in the #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:02 |
| onlyONscripting | @Dor_i_an Do you think it shows a break in the community somehow if a black or Latino dates interracially? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:08 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 @EvaZelle I hate the “a good white man will save the unwanted negress” narrative. HATE. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:51 |
| jenkchau | Yes! RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:08 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @ITYCPODCAST oh come on…what’s to hate?! jk #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:17 |
| EddieN120 | Well @Dor_i_an, look at the example I gave. He’s mixed black AND Latino but only says he’s black. So it’s complicated. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:28 |
| kadavids | @EvaZelle @itycpodcast Agree, but I love the # of IR couples on TV shows, like those on HGTV. They always make me smile #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:39 |
| FairOpportunity | @lawscribe, @jenkchau, I don’t disagree. I was brought up in a white community too and dating mostly white women for a long time #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:39 |
| KathrinOutLoud | Most def! RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that ppl who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:58 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST Ugh. There are so many stories/myths like that. I agree. I hate those too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:08 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST Good point. I do think black men shld think of why they dont want to date a black woman. Its an important ? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:32 |
| ITYCPODCAST | MT @EddieN120: I truly believe people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. Preach! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:39 |
| EddieN120 | Oh I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:42 |
| jenkchau | @kadavids Like you? 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:47 |
| FairOpportunity | …but that changed after college and law school. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:01 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau It’s those magazines! I’m screaming again. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:10 |
| EvaZelle | word RT @EddieN120: I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:16 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: Oh I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:21 |
| jenkchau | I think *anyone* who has a severe preference OR aversion to any race should ask themselves a ? or two. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:53 |
| kadavids | @jenkchau lol that episode just makes me laugh 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:54 |
| kadavids | RT @eddien120: Oh I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:03 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST I think I can hear you…. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:13 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @Dor_i_an @ITYCPODCAST are we assuming that decision making process is that deep? Is it really that much of conscious decision? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:16 |
| EddieN120 | @lawscribe also mixies don’t often get a chance to date other mixies because they may be the only ones they know in the area! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:27 |
| jenkchau | @kadavids I love it and want to watch you in your soon to be home at that point…again. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:40 |
| FairOpportunity | I think that, as an adult, who you date and what race they are depends largely on what environments you put yourself in. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:42 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @Dor_i_an There’s no doubt folks need to examine their racial baggage whether dating or just plain existing as a human being. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:45 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Good point. I think a lot is unconscious. Unconscious preferences/aversions… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:10 |
| EddieN120 | Oh yes! RT @jenkchau I think *anyone* who has a severe preference OR aversion to any race should ask themselves a ? or two. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:11 |
| KathrinOutLoud | We seriously need to get some queer folks in on this kind of conversations #swirlchat feeling the odd one out. #queer #mixed #lgbtq | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:11 |
| kadavids | @onlyonscripting Thanks darling! How are you? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:34 |
| EvaZelle | @EddieN120 @lawscribe and this was largely the case for me while living in Georgia suburbs #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:40 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @KathrinOutLoud @Dor_i_an It depends on the person. I generally try to avoid questioning other people’s dating/mating motives #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:11 |
| lawscribe | +10 RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:11 |
| swirlinc | @KathrinOutLoud You are totally a part of this convo! But would love a diversity here, for sure! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:22 |
| onlyONscripting | Such a good point @jenkchau. People who only date specific races scare me and I’m sure there’s no internal questioning. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:31 |
| EddieN120 | Sorry that you have to be lone LGBTQ person in this chat today @KathrinOutLoud. We do need the non-straight perspective on this #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:46 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud We all have shared stories. I also think ppl decide who they want 2 be w not just based on love but perception. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:46:01 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an At least at first, yes. I agree! We probably all have assumptions about this other person until we learn more. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:46:46 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @swirlinc I feel like I am having a very hetero conversation – queer and mixed esp from within queer community perspective unique #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:46:53 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 @KathrinOutLoud I agree-LGBTQ erasure is a problem in a lot of these discussions about IR. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:01 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud I can chime in a bit, too … but that could be a convo in and of itself! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:03 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud i’m here. i’ve dated caucasian women. the typical stereotypes are always mentioned at least once #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:06 |
| EddieN120 | I’m not a fan of absolutes. Ppl who say I only date XYZ slightly annoy me for that very reason. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:10 |
| swirlinc | @KathrinOutLoud Can you share with us your experience? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:26 |
| swirlinc | @onlyONscripting Do it, Joel! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:44 |
| EddieN120 | And I admit that I begin to question WHY they’re so exclusionary. What could be “wrong” with them? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:59 |
| swirlinc | @EvaZelle Good reminder to us not to assume who is here and who isn’t! #swirlchat But glad you raised it, Kathrin! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:13 |
| kadavids | @EddieN120 Same here. It’s like they don’t want to open up and experience new things #swirlchat #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:21 |
| EddieN120 | (Forgive me for being such a judgmental and weak human! LOL) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:25 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau @Dor_i_an I have to say that reading Peggy Pascoe’s book “What Comes Naturally” rearranged my mind about IR completely. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:29 |
| Dor_i_an | @onlyONscripting It demonstrates a major break in the community. Why do we fight so hard 2 love others & not love ourselves 1st? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:34 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: I’m not a fan of absolutes. Ppl who say I only date XYZ slightly annoy me for that very reason. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:48 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST That’s on my list! I have to read it… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:57 |
| BlackCanseco | @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud lol @ #swirlchat… now I suddenly want some neopolitan icecream. | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:04 |
| onlyONscripting | @swirlinc Might be a good #swirlchat in the future … this IR talk is our biggest yet! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:10 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @swirlinc The lgbtq community is white dominated & there aren’t many spaces for queers of color let alone queers who are mixed. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:26 |
| lawscribe | @EddieN120 not only was I the only mixie in town, I was only kid even “slightly black.” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:33 |
| EddieN120 | LOL @BlackCanseco make sure you put some peanuts in that ice cream! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:37 |
| jenkchau | @BlackCanseco Uh oh… you bringin’ the food analogies? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:45 |
| Dor_i_an | @EddieN120 its very complicated. Sometimes I identify solely with being black and sometimes solely Puerto Rican. Sometimes both. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:58 |
| jenkchau | @lawscribe I had a similar experience about not having other mixed kids around… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:18 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau It’s going to explode your head. It’s deep. I keep rereading chapters and making notes. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:25 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud yes a thousand times to that. also, i don’t know if you’ve gotten this,but the need to prove yourself as part of #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:25 |
| kadavids | RT @EddieN120: Im not a fan of absolutes. Ppl who say I only date XYZ slightly annoy me for that very reason. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:26 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud So true. There are LOTS of hierarchies, too, and just as many folks who exclusively date (fill in group) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:42 |
| EddieN120 | True @Dor_i_an. It just shows the fluidity of the Latino experience. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:43 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST That’s a testimonial! I am going to have to let you know what I think… 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:04 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 @BlackCanseco Not the food analogies! Nooo! LOL! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:10 |
| KathrinOutLoud | While I know a lot of IR queer couples we live in silos – black queer – latino queer – asian queer or lumped into queers of color #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:15 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST You and I are on the same page today. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:28 |
| EddieN120 | Have to get that book too…thanks @ITYCPODCAST for the heads-up! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:33 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud the LGBT community and not some cute anomaly before you are allowed into certain convos #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:39 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud @ITYCPODCAST its a conscious decision 4 me. I’m looking @ what type of future & family do I want to build & w who #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:43 |
| nonash88 | having a great time at work reading this 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:03 |
| lawscribe | For many mixies, the dominant community will tell that child to question the part of him or her that “doesn’t fit.” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:11 |
| KathrinOutLoud | I’ve dated a few white queer folk here & felt very fetishized & shoved into this box of what an AfroGerman Latina should be like #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:20 |
| swirlinc | @nonash88 Thanks for reading along! Feel free to jump in too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:55 |
| EddieN120 | What SHOULD an AfroGerman Latina be like @KathrinOutLoud? Funny how others want to always define you, for you! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:05 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 I feel a little evangelical abt it, but it’s such an impt well done book. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:28 |
| EvaZelle | i can say, both genders point out specific body parts that i “should have” b/c i’m mixed with x,y,z #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:35 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST absolutely. We all need to examine our racial baggage that’s why this discussion is so important #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:38 |
| EddieN120 | Because the mixed experience at home is so, well, mixed, it really does have an impact on our adult dating choices #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:53 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle I sometimes think it is hard enough to navigate the land of a progressive queer politic AND the racial space #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:31 |
| EddieN120 | e.g. if our (white) father was abusive, we may shy away from white men as potential romantic partners. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:40 |
| jenkchau | @EvaZelle Are you serious?? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:43 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST @jenkchau thanks for the book suggestion. I’m going to check it out. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:48 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @Dor_i_an @KathrinOutLoud I hear you. I think that tackling race will help us to reclaim our humanity and respect for all people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:07 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an Say it, sister!! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:08 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle add dating into that and…..it goes back to earlier convo with @JenkChau about schooling and educating partners #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:11 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau I know! We’re psychic twins today! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:42 |
| EddieN120 | I agree with you @EvaZelle. Race is a big enough issue & then you add sexuality into it, and… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:45 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an Maybe it’s our next SwirlBookClub read? 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:48 |
| lawscribe | The effect is that at puberty, the child will tend to be attracted to what is around them and what is culturally acceptable. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:49 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud it’s not a fight i go looking for. too many times i get the look of “don’t school me on feeling disenfranchised” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:56:13 |
| kadavids | Yes! RT @ITYCPODCAST: I hear you. I think that tackling race will help us to reclaim our humanity and respect for all people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:56:40 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud and it’s degrading and sad and angers me b/c i expect my partner to recognize that this relationship will have #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:56:56 |
| EddieN120 | +10 RT @ITYCPODCAST: I hear you. I think that tackling race will help us to reclaim our humanity and respect for all people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:01 |
| Sungoddess379 | RT @KathrinOutLoud: Most def! RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that ppl who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:22 |
| ITYCPODCAST | I think we can’t under estimate how white supremacy/instit. racism have affected our dating/mating lives. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:25 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle yeah, I got that recently from older white gay guy I lived next door “I am part of a major minority”….huh!! (cont) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:32 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud many areas of discussion which are all equally as important. so don’t roll your eyes unless you want me to leave #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle I am like “you are white and male and upper middle class…you are practically at the top of the hierarchy #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:42 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud it’s SO frustrating,but,yes,there’s privilege even among the “minority” groups. ppl don’t address that #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:48 |
| EddieN120 | Let me ask a personal question: did your parents object to you dating someone of one of your races, or did they not care? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:54 |
| swirlinc | It’s hard to believe that this hour went by so quickly! Thank you all! Please offer your final thoughts and see you next time! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle hahaha “don’t roll your eyes unless you want me to leave” ..can I use that sometime? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:03 |
| onlyONscripting | Great chat! I foresee this topic being discussed again! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:30 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud please do! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:40 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EddieN120 the only time my parents objected was when I dated an Iranian. My dad is an Army officer  #swirlchat |
Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:52 |
| kadavids | It’s also interesting when it’s interracial and international. So many stereotypes overlooked cuz only considered “American” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:57 |
| KathrinOutLoud | RT @kadavids: It’s also interesting when it’s interracial and international. So many stereotypes overlooked cuz only considered “American” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:08 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I think you are right! Such a rich conversation! Thank you everyone! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:12 |
| EddieN120 | That was a quick hour! We only scratched the surface re: our IR dating horror stories! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:21 |
| EvaZelle | fantastic chat, y’all. and definitely need to have a LGBT mixie one #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:25 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 Absolutely…we can do a part two! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:35 |
| EddieN120 | At least a part two,three, and four! We need a mini-series to tackle this fully LOL #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:14 |
| kadavids | @eddien120 What a trigger question at the end of the hour ;-). Don’t care, thankfully. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:16 |
| KathrinOutLoud | See you all in two weeks! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:18 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc Thanks for the great #swirlchat! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:21 |
| lecanardzero | RT @kadavids: It’s also interesting when it’s interracial and international. So many stereotypes overlooked cuz only considered “American” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:38 |
| FairOpportunity | Great chat! Be good and free y’all! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:44 |
| EvaZelle | Co-sign! RT @EddieN120: At least a part two,three, and four! We need a mini-series to tackle this fully LOL #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:58 |
| kadavids | Chat in two weeks Swirlies! Thanks for moderating @jenkchau! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:02 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud See you in 2 wks! And if you or Corina (since u mentioned) want to moderate a queer IR dating chat, hit me up! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:30 |
| EddieN120 | All east coast Swirlies, take care this weekend as Hurricane Irene blows through! Peace y’all! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:31 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST @KathrinOutLoud tackling race with dialogue is a great place to start. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:43 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @jenkchau I think that would be great!! @EvaZelle #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:50 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau I think that should def. be the next Swirl Book Club read:) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:07 |
| EvaZelle | Yes. RT @jenkchau: @KathrinOutLoud if you or Corina (since u mentioned) want to moderate a queer IR dating chat, hit me up! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:07 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an I agree! That’s what Swirl is all about! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:07 |
| jenkchau | @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud Ok – will be in touch to plan! #swirlchat Great!!! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:29 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an Yet another plan! 🙂 What a productive #swirlchat ! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:58 |
| Dor_i_an | @swirlinc why it flew by. I think we need to keep talking about race so we can learn & grow. Thanks for today’s discussion:) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:04:23 |
| EvaZelle | sounds great. RT @jenkchau: @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud Ok – will be in touch to plan! #swirlchat Great!!! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:04:26 |
| KathrinOutLoud | Sweet…works for me! RT @jenkchau: @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud Ok – will be in touch to plan! #swirlchat Great!!! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:04:56 |
| EddieN120 | These chats always throw up such rich ideas for further exploration. Gotta love it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:05:04 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau @swirlinc It was a great #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:05:20 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an In part due to your presence! Keep comin’ back, lady! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:05:41 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 Thanks Eddie…you’re an important voice that adds to the richness! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:06:01 |
| kadavids | +10 RT @EddieN120: These chats always throw up such rich ideas for further exploration. Gotta love it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:06:07 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau thanks hun. I will be back for the next #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:06:36 |
| EddieN120 | Thank you @jenkchau & @swirlinc for the kind comments. You know I don’t need much of an excuse to sound off on stuff! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:07:21 |
*Note that our chats are held on Fridays (every other) from 3pm-4pm EST. The times you see here are indicative of the fact that the person who captured this transcript is located in Germany. Thanks Kim!
Please join our next live every-other-week Tweet chat on Friday, September 9th. Stay tuned for the topic!
| swirlinc | Let’s get this #swirlchat party started! Chime in & let us know where you are, and what brings you here today! (don’t forget the #swirlchat) | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:59:28 |
| swirlinc | And then we will dive into the juicy topic of IR dating and “dating while mixed.” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:59:50 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc I can #swirlchat until the toddler wakes up! woo hoo! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:00:37 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @swirlinc: Let’s get this #swirlchat party started! Chime in & let us know where you are, and what brings you here today! (don’t… | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:00:47 |
| onlyONscripting | #SwirlChat Hi everyone! I’m Joel, a long-time lover of Swirl (the group). Looking forward to today’s convo to hera some insights! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:01 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I like that you indicated the group. Otherwise you would have sounded like an IR fetishist! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:41 |
| EddieN120 | Hey everybody! Eddie in the wilds of New Jersey here! Hope y’all weren’t too shook up by the quake! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:47 |
| EvaZelle | Hello, all. Used to be co-organizer of Swirl Atlanta. now in chicago, howdy! #swirlchat |
Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:01:54 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EddieN120 You ok up there? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:02:04 |
| onlyONscripting | @jenkchau Exactly! Didn’t want to start the convo on the wrong foot! 🙂 #Swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:02:09 |
| onlyONscripting | Welcome @EddieN120 @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud #SwirlChat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:02:50 |
| swirlinc | Great to have you all here! Hey Corina! And Joel and Kathrin! And Eddie of course… @ITYCPODCAST, nice to have you here! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:03:33 |
| EddieN120 | Yeah, Kathyrn, I’m good. Printing the “DID THE EARTH MOVE FOR YOU TOO?” shirts now 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:04:00 |
| EvaZelle | oh, swirlies, grad school has eaten my time. how i’ve missed the group. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:05:13 |
| jenkchau | Between the earthquake and Hurricane Irene…let’s see if this topic can get our minds off of the natural disasters for a while.. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:05:35 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc Thanks! I’m glad I can finally participate! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:00 |
| jenkchau | Hope it’s going well, Corina! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:09 |
| EddieN120 | Glad you could make it, @EvaZelle! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:37 |
| swirlinc | Ok – let’s get down to it. Is interracial dating still a big deal? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:06:43 |
| EddieN120 | And welcome back @ITYCPODCAST too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:07:02 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 Thanks Eddie! Long time no tweet! #swirlchat! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:03 |
| Dor_i_an | @swirlinc I think it was always be a big deal for a lot of people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:37 |
| jenkchau | I think that there is a lot more interracial dating (at least in NYC) these days, but I know people who still struggle with it… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:43 |
| EddieN120 | Is IR dating still a big deal in the US? Yes, and no. Yes, because we still see people like Keith Bardwell hit the headlines. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:53 |
| onlyONscripting | I say yes! I also think it’s evolved … not only do you have people against it, you have others that “crave” it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:08:53 |
| EddieN120 | But no, because we see surveys like that one about millenials being open to the idea. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:09:22 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc Considering how not postracial we are I understand why people keep talking abt it. I just hate THE WAY we talk abt. it #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:09:30 |
| EvaZelle | @swirlinc it effects relationships on many levels. in fact, i most don’t encounter racism until dating #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:09:53 |
| jenkchau | …people whose families struggle with it, more specifically. #swirlchat @swirlinc | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:00 |
| swirlinc | @ITYCPODCAST Can you say more about that? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:34 |
| onlyONscripting | @swirlinc Yes, I’d love to hear more, too! @ITYCPODCAST #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:52 |
| EddieN120 | My biggest pet peeve about how we talk about IR: making it always a black and white convo, as if other people don’t do it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:10:54 |
| swirlinc | @EvaZelle Interesting. I want to hear more about that too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:11:01 |
| FairOpportunity | Interracial dating is still a big deal, I think… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:11:38 |
| KathrinOutLoud | We have alot of open conversations about inter-racial dating and the struggles folks face with how their families respond to it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:11:44 |
| swirlinc | @FairOpportunity In what ways? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:01 |
| EddieN120 | WORD! RT @EvaZelle “it effects relationships on many levels. in fact, i most don’t encounter racism until dating” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:13 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 I agree. Things always get binary in IR dating talk #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:19 |
| FairOpportunity | Especially for those of us who are mixed already… No matter who we date we’re dating interracially… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:58 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST I would argue that things get binary/simplistic with talk about race in general! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:12:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | RT @FairOpportunity: Especially for those of us who are mixed already… No matter who we date we’re dating interracially… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:09 |
| EvaZelle | @swirlinc @EvaZelle when people think dating,they also subconsciously think “children” or “what would my family think” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:27 |
| sam_pierre | Good point! RT @jenkchau: @ITYCPODCAST I would argue that things get binary/simplistic with talk about race in general! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:30 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity I’m curious…when we say that all mixed people are always in IR relationships, what is underneath that? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:13:42 |
| swirlinc | @sam_pierre Welcome to the convo! So glad to have you here! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:05 |
| swirlinc | @FairOpportunity Thanks for joining us too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:24 |
| ITYCPODCAST | I also get frustrated with the kind of “womens'” magazine framing of the topic. No real critical context. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:35 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau so glad to be here Jen. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:14:49 |
| sam_pierre | @swirlinc Thanks! This is my very first #swirlchat 🙂 | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:05 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST Here here! There is definitely a fair share of objectification of IR relationships! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:09 |
| swirlinc | @sam_pierre Hopefully not your last! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:21 |
| onlyONscripting | It seems almost any interracial relationship is questioned … as in folks couldn’t just love each other, one has a fetish. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:25 |
| EvaZelle | Yes RT @FairOpportunity: Especially for those of us who are mixed already… No matter who we date were dating interracially… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:15:37 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting Yes- I get that vibe too…that people are curious about WHY you are with the other person. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:00 |
| Dor_i_an | Please join @swirlinc in a discussion on interracial dating. I know you all have something to say about the topic:) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:23 |
| EddieN120 | If you’re mixed then as I always say you’re IR dating by default! 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:33 |
| FairOpportunity | @jenkchau – no one race sees mixed people as their own… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:35 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau If I read another Essence/Glamour piece about IR dating, I’ll scream #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:47 |
| onlyONscripting | @jenkchau Which is fine, I guess, you ask that of any couple, but with IR, it ALWAYS goes to the “who’s into what race & why?” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:07 |
| EddieN120 | LOL @ITYCPODCAST, you know it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:13 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST I see screaming in your future. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:16 |
| EvaZelle | @swirlinc the ignorance typically follows comfort levels.who we are comfortable with as a pal might be different in bed #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:20 |
| EvaZelle | And this is a HUGE component of the conflict RT @FairOpportunity: @jenkchau – no one race sees mixed people as their own… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:17:54 |
| EddieN120 | IR dating is far too often like a litmus test for the people with whom we interact, strangers inclusive. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:18:25 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EvaZelle @FairOpportunity That’s so interesting. Do you thin that only folks who ID as mixed see them selves as in IR? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:18:26 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @onlyONscripting …and questions “do you always only date ___ people?” projecting their perception/fetish-like curiosity on you.#swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:01 |
| KathrinOutLoud | Speaking of objectification @JenkChau – have you felt that within relationships that you have been in too? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:23 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau @eddien120 I know. I’ll be a permanent Munch picture! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:37 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud Exactly! What’s even more disappointing? When it ends up being true! And the other party is participating. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:43 |
| EddieN120 | It can lead to paranoic questions like “Why are they looking at us? Is it because we look good together — OR SOMETHING ELSE?!” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:47 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: IR dating is far too often like a litmus test for the people with whom we interact, strangers inclusive. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:19:52 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Definitely gotten comments here & there. I have felt the most objectification when w a guy who was mixed too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:12 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @onlyONscripting Oh, I have briefly dated white folks who said things like “I only date black & brown women.” which ends things. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:12 |
| EddieN120 | People think they have the right to question your choice of date/partner esp. if they look like they’re diff. from you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:15 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Yikes! I can imagine! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:36 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: People think they have the right to question your choice of date/partner esp. if they look like they’re diff. from you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:21:50 |
| EddieN120 | re objectification: one of my sister-friends is Nigerian and Filipino. She’s always complaining that she gets the worst of… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:17 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 I agree. I think curiosity gets the best of people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:24 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @jenkchau That’s interesting! I’ve felt most marginalized by white & black folks I’ve dated…felt most at ease with mixed folk. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:30 |
| EvaZelle | RT@EddieN120: People think they have the right 2question your choice of date/partner esp. if they look like theyre diff. from you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:34 |
| EddieN120 | …both worlds. Guys who have “jungle fever” and guys who have “yellow fever” hit on her 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:22:47 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Just to clarify – not objectified by the guy, but by others, toward us as a couple! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:04 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud Good! It can’t go further? All they’re looking for is a shell–doesn’t matter about the personality filling it. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:26 |
| jenkchau | Oh…if you want to know about partners objectifying me. It has happened A LOT. (insert endless stereotypes of Asian women here) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:45 |
| Dor_i_an | @swirlinc Im the product of an interracial couple but sometimes my stances on who can actually interaccially date are conflicted. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:49 |
| EddieN120 | She told me once that a dude walked up to her & said “What breed are you?” #worstchatuplineever #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:51 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @jenkchau gotcha…I was asking more from within the relationship by the partner #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:23:55 |
| swirlinc | @Dor_i_an ?? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:02 |
| EvaZelle | Such a disappointment RT @jenkchau: Oh…if you want to know about partners objectifying me. It has happened A LOT. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:25 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @ITYCPODCAST yep – its borderline racist…at minimum insensitive and disrespectful #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:40 |
| jenkchau | @EvaZelle Yea, but don’t worry. I took many opportunities to school them. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:24:54 |
| KathrinOutLoud | So hurtful! RT @jenkchau: Oh…if you want to know about partners objectifying me. It has happened A LOT. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:26 |
| EvaZelle | @jenkchau Good! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:27 |
| swirlinc | So how does objectification by a partner play out? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:47 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @Dor_i_an Can you say more about tht? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:47 |
| FairOpportunity | Here’s a curveball y’all: I’ve dated women from every mono-race. I’ve yet to date a mixed person. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:55 |
| EddieN120 | @jenkchau There is a positive out of the negative — the opportunity to teach people to behave better. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:25:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @FairOpportunity why do you think that is? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:12 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 That’s the hope! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:20 |
| FairOpportunity | … And not by choice. So question: Do you find that mixed people are often racist against their own? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:29 |
| EddieN120 | @FairOpportunity, c’mon man, hurry up, you gotta taste ALL of the rainbow! 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:26:32 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EddieN120 @JenKChau agreed…but always schooling potential partners sets up a really messed up power dynamic for relationship #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:05 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @KathrinOutLoud Yes! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:11 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 Eddie! (objectification, what?) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:34 |
| EddieN120 | I’ve seen some hatred of other mixies by other mixies, yes. But I wouldn’t say it happens often. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:27:55 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Oh absolutely. None of them were bound for success. There’s schooling & then there are mature conversations. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:15 |
| EvaZelle | @EddieN120 @FairOpportunity I agree, but add that it’s kinda tough to find mixies searching for other mixies #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:19 |
| FairOpportunity | @EddieN120, I’d like to dated mixed women, but I’ve found that they’re usually into, frankly, white men… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:23 |
| FairOpportunity | And I’m not sayin’ they’re hating on mixes, just that in dating they prefer dating whites. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:28:47 |
| EvaZelle | @FairOpportunity oof! well, if you’re in chicago…. haha #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:03 |
| jenkchau | I have not come across mixed people who “hate” other mixed people…but that’s probably because I’m in the business of Swirl. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:04 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @FairOpportunity I wonder how many mixies who date white folk were raised in predominantly white communities and if that matters #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:15 |
| EddieN120 | Oh Jen, my friend has so many dating horror stories she could write a book… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:22 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 I believe it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:36 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud sure. I’m black & puerto rican but sometimes when I see white women w. black men I feel a certain way. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:29:44 |
| kadavids | Sorry I’m late to the party #swirlchat! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:14 |
| swirlinc | @sam_pierre How do you feel about all of this? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:23 |
| FrenchieGlobal | Girl… RT @ITYCPODCAST @jenkchau If I read another Essence/Glamour piece about IR dating, I’ll scream #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:31 |
| EddieN120 | Haha “@FairOpportunity & @EvaZelle sittin’ in a tree/they are dat-ing in-ter-rac-ial-ly!” LMAO #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:30:49 |
| swirlinc | @kadavids Welcome! and Welcome @FrenchieGlobal #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:12 |
| onlyONscripting | @kadavids Welcome! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:25 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 What an instigator! 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:36 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud In my rational Black & Latinos share similar stories & experiences. So I dont have a problem w us being together. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:53 |
| FairOpportunity | Mature, @EddieN120… 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:31:54 |
| EddieN120 | Welcome @kadavids @FrenchieGlobal…we’re just planning weddings up in here… 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:32:16 |
| onlyONscripting | @Dor_i_an I can see that. There’s not the same oppression history that would be there if a white person was involved. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:32:48 |
| EvaZelle | @EddieN120 @FairOpportunity hey, i’m jus sayin’ #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:32:57 |
| swirlinc | @EddieN120 An unintended byproduct of joining #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:33:27 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @Dor_i_an @KathrinOutLoud I used to feel some kind of way abt it until I stopped thinking that every black man owed me a date. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:33:50 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I get that too…but a white person & a black or latino person can have a lot more in common than what you see. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:34:50 |
| FairOpportunity | @EvaZelle, Was born and raised in the Chi. Been a NYker for a decade now though. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:09 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I’m thinking about socioeconomic class, etc. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:37 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud i strongly feel the community in which you were raised plays a huge role as does who your parents approved #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:39 |
| EddieN120 | Just had an interesting fb convo with a man who is 25% indigenous (native Colombian) Spanish & black, identifies as only black. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:35:44 |
| Dor_i_an | @onlyONscripting Yes! We need 2 build our communities within our communities. Which includes our relationships and families. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:06 |
| sam_pierre | RT @EvaZelle: @KathrinOutLoud i strongly feel the community in which you were raised plays a huge role as does who your parents approved #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:22 |
| FairOpportunity | @jenkchau,agreed. I don’t hate on whites dating others. I just don’t get why so many mixed folk feel the need to date only whites #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:30 |
| EddieN120 | And thus doesn’t consider himself mixed, nor Latino! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:33 |
| EvaZelle | @FairOpportunity i do see many mixies in Chi and i’m such a dork, i smile whenever an IR couple w/baby in tow passes #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:36:33 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity I wonder if it goes back to my last comment. Maybe life experiences are really similar? I don’t know… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:09 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud It just sits better with me when their is some kind of shared experience and story. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:27 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity I have heard a lot of mixed people talk about growing up in homogeneous white communities and… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:40 |
| EvaZelle | i also believe mags and blogs love to blow up IR relationships to foster stigma #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:45 |
| EddieN120 | I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:53 |
| lawscribe | @KathrinOutLoud I was raised in predominantly white world and it absolutely effected my dating. @FairOpportunity #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:57 |
| onlyONscripting | @jenkchau Totally agree, which is especially nice if it’s another factor that builds the relationship. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:37:58 |
| jenkchau | @FairOpportunity …not really identifying as a person of color until further exploration, etc. One theory. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:08 |
| EvaZelle | Yes RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:25 |
| jenkchau | @lawscribe My theory prevails! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:47 |
| EddieN120 | diff mags with diff agendas blow up diff IR dating scenarios eg ESSENCE & its BMWW obsession 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:49 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EvaZelle I agree abt the mag’s agenda. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:57 |
| EvaZelle | @lawscribe hey, buddy. nice to see you #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:38:58 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EvaZelle: i also believe mags and blogs love to blow up IR relationships to foster stigma #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:01 |
| swirlinc | @lawscribe Welcome! So glad to have you in the #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:02 |
| onlyONscripting | @Dor_i_an Do you think it shows a break in the community somehow if a black or Latino dates interracially? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:08 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 @EvaZelle I hate the “a good white man will save the unwanted negress” narrative. HATE. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:39:51 |
| jenkchau | Yes! RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:08 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @ITYCPODCAST oh come on…what’s to hate?! jk #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:17 |
| EddieN120 | Well @Dor_i_an, look at the example I gave. He’s mixed black AND Latino but only says he’s black. So it’s complicated. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:28 |
| kadavids | @EvaZelle @itycpodcast Agree, but I love the # of IR couples on TV shows, like those on HGTV. They always make me smile #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:39 |
| FairOpportunity | @lawscribe, @jenkchau, I don’t disagree. I was brought up in a white community too and dating mostly white women for a long time #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:39 |
| KathrinOutLoud | Most def! RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that ppl who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:40:58 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST Ugh. There are so many stories/myths like that. I agree. I hate those too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:08 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST Good point. I do think black men shld think of why they dont want to date a black woman. Its an important ? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:32 |
| ITYCPODCAST | MT @EddieN120: I truly believe people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. Preach! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:39 |
| EddieN120 | Oh I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:42 |
| jenkchau | @kadavids Like you? 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:41:47 |
| FairOpportunity | …but that changed after college and law school. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:01 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau It’s those magazines! I’m screaming again. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:10 |
| EvaZelle | word RT @EddieN120: I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:16 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: Oh I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:21 |
| jenkchau | I think *anyone* who has a severe preference OR aversion to any race should ask themselves a ? or two. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:53 |
| kadavids | @jenkchau lol that episode just makes me laugh 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:42:54 |
| kadavids | RT @eddien120: Oh I totally confess to giving the positive “IR head nod” when I see a mixed couple walking down the street 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:03 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST I think I can hear you…. 😉 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:13 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @Dor_i_an @ITYCPODCAST are we assuming that decision making process is that deep? Is it really that much of conscious decision? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:16 |
| EddieN120 | @lawscribe also mixies don’t often get a chance to date other mixies because they may be the only ones they know in the area! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:27 |
| jenkchau | @kadavids I love it and want to watch you in your soon to be home at that point…again. 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:40 |
| FairOpportunity | I think that, as an adult, who you date and what race they are depends largely on what environments you put yourself in. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:42 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @Dor_i_an There’s no doubt folks need to examine their racial baggage whether dating or just plain existing as a human being. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:43:45 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud Good point. I think a lot is unconscious. Unconscious preferences/aversions… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:10 |
| EddieN120 | Oh yes! RT @jenkchau I think *anyone* who has a severe preference OR aversion to any race should ask themselves a ? or two. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:11 |
| KathrinOutLoud | We seriously need to get some queer folks in on this kind of conversations #swirlchat feeling the odd one out. #queer #mixed #lgbtq | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:11 |
| kadavids | @onlyonscripting Thanks darling! How are you? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:34 |
| EvaZelle | @EddieN120 @lawscribe and this was largely the case for me while living in Georgia suburbs #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:44:40 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @KathrinOutLoud @Dor_i_an It depends on the person. I generally try to avoid questioning other people’s dating/mating motives #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:11 |
| lawscribe | +10 RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that people who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter their diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:11 |
| swirlinc | @KathrinOutLoud You are totally a part of this convo! But would love a diversity here, for sure! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:22 |
| onlyONscripting | Such a good point @jenkchau. People who only date specific races scare me and I’m sure there’s no internal questioning. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:31 |
| EddieN120 | Sorry that you have to be lone LGBTQ person in this chat today @KathrinOutLoud. We do need the non-straight perspective on this #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:45:46 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud We all have shared stories. I also think ppl decide who they want 2 be w not just based on love but perception. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:46:01 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an At least at first, yes. I agree! We probably all have assumptions about this other person until we learn more. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:46:46 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @swirlinc I feel like I am having a very hetero conversation – queer and mixed esp from within queer community perspective unique #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:46:53 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 @KathrinOutLoud I agree-LGBTQ erasure is a problem in a lot of these discussions about IR. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:01 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud I can chime in a bit, too … but that could be a convo in and of itself! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:03 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud i’m here. i’ve dated caucasian women. the typical stereotypes are always mentioned at least once #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:06 |
| EddieN120 | I’m not a fan of absolutes. Ppl who say I only date XYZ slightly annoy me for that very reason. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:10 |
| swirlinc | @KathrinOutLoud Can you share with us your experience? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:26 |
| swirlinc | @onlyONscripting Do it, Joel! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:44 |
| EddieN120 | And I admit that I begin to question WHY they’re so exclusionary. What could be “wrong” with them? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:47:59 |
| swirlinc | @EvaZelle Good reminder to us not to assume who is here and who isn’t! #swirlchat But glad you raised it, Kathrin! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:13 |
| kadavids | @EddieN120 Same here. It’s like they don’t want to open up and experience new things #swirlchat #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:21 |
| EddieN120 | (Forgive me for being such a judgmental and weak human! LOL) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:25 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau @Dor_i_an I have to say that reading Peggy Pascoe’s book “What Comes Naturally” rearranged my mind about IR completely. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:29 |
| Dor_i_an | @onlyONscripting It demonstrates a major break in the community. Why do we fight so hard 2 love others & not love ourselves 1st? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:34 |
| ITYCPODCAST | RT @EddieN120: I’m not a fan of absolutes. Ppl who say I only date XYZ slightly annoy me for that very reason. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:48 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST That’s on my list! I have to read it… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:48:57 |
| BlackCanseco | @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud lol @ #swirlchat… now I suddenly want some neopolitan icecream. | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:04 |
| onlyONscripting | @swirlinc Might be a good #swirlchat in the future … this IR talk is our biggest yet! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:10 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @swirlinc The lgbtq community is white dominated & there aren’t many spaces for queers of color let alone queers who are mixed. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:26 |
| lawscribe | @EddieN120 not only was I the only mixie in town, I was only kid even “slightly black.” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:33 |
| EddieN120 | LOL @BlackCanseco make sure you put some peanuts in that ice cream! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:37 |
| jenkchau | @BlackCanseco Uh oh… you bringin’ the food analogies? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:45 |
| Dor_i_an | @EddieN120 its very complicated. Sometimes I identify solely with being black and sometimes solely Puerto Rican. Sometimes both. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:49:58 |
| jenkchau | @lawscribe I had a similar experience about not having other mixed kids around… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:18 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau It’s going to explode your head. It’s deep. I keep rereading chapters and making notes. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:25 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud yes a thousand times to that. also, i don’t know if you’ve gotten this,but the need to prove yourself as part of #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:25 |
| kadavids | RT @EddieN120: Im not a fan of absolutes. Ppl who say I only date XYZ slightly annoy me for that very reason. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:26 |
| onlyONscripting | @KathrinOutLoud So true. There are LOTS of hierarchies, too, and just as many folks who exclusively date (fill in group) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:42 |
| EddieN120 | True @Dor_i_an. It just shows the fluidity of the Latino experience. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:50:43 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST That’s a testimonial! I am going to have to let you know what I think… 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:04 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 @BlackCanseco Not the food analogies! Nooo! LOL! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:10 |
| KathrinOutLoud | While I know a lot of IR queer couples we live in silos – black queer – latino queer – asian queer or lumped into queers of color #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:15 |
| jenkchau | @ITYCPODCAST You and I are on the same page today. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:28 |
| EddieN120 | Have to get that book too…thanks @ITYCPODCAST for the heads-up! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:33 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud the LGBT community and not some cute anomaly before you are allowed into certain convos #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:39 |
| Dor_i_an | @KathrinOutLoud @ITYCPODCAST its a conscious decision 4 me. I’m looking @ what type of future & family do I want to build & w who #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:51:43 |
| nonash88 | having a great time at work reading this 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:03 |
| lawscribe | For many mixies, the dominant community will tell that child to question the part of him or her that “doesn’t fit.” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:11 |
| KathrinOutLoud | I’ve dated a few white queer folk here & felt very fetishized & shoved into this box of what an AfroGerman Latina should be like #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:20 |
| swirlinc | @nonash88 Thanks for reading along! Feel free to jump in too! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:52:55 |
| EddieN120 | What SHOULD an AfroGerman Latina be like @KathrinOutLoud? Funny how others want to always define you, for you! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:05 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @EddieN120 I feel a little evangelical abt it, but it’s such an impt well done book. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:28 |
| EvaZelle | i can say, both genders point out specific body parts that i “should have” b/c i’m mixed with x,y,z #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:35 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST absolutely. We all need to examine our racial baggage that’s why this discussion is so important #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:38 |
| EddieN120 | Because the mixed experience at home is so, well, mixed, it really does have an impact on our adult dating choices #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:53:53 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle I sometimes think it is hard enough to navigate the land of a progressive queer politic AND the racial space #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:31 |
| EddieN120 | e.g. if our (white) father was abusive, we may shy away from white men as potential romantic partners. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:40 |
| jenkchau | @EvaZelle Are you serious?? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:43 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST @jenkchau thanks for the book suggestion. I’m going to check it out. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:54:48 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @Dor_i_an @KathrinOutLoud I hear you. I think that tackling race will help us to reclaim our humanity and respect for all people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:07 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an Say it, sister!! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:08 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle add dating into that and…..it goes back to earlier convo with @JenkChau about schooling and educating partners #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:11 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @jenkchau I know! We’re psychic twins today! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:42 |
| EddieN120 | I agree with you @EvaZelle. Race is a big enough issue & then you add sexuality into it, and… #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:45 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an Maybe it’s our next SwirlBookClub read? 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:48 |
| lawscribe | The effect is that at puberty, the child will tend to be attracted to what is around them and what is culturally acceptable. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:55:49 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud it’s not a fight i go looking for. too many times i get the look of “don’t school me on feeling disenfranchised” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:56:13 |
| kadavids | Yes! RT @ITYCPODCAST: I hear you. I think that tackling race will help us to reclaim our humanity and respect for all people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:56:40 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud and it’s degrading and sad and angers me b/c i expect my partner to recognize that this relationship will have #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:56:56 |
| EddieN120 | +10 RT @ITYCPODCAST: I hear you. I think that tackling race will help us to reclaim our humanity and respect for all people. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:01 |
| Sungoddess379 | RT @KathrinOutLoud: Most def! RT @EddieN120: I truly believe that ppl who share similarities in upbringing get along better no matter diff. races. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:22 |
| ITYCPODCAST | I think we can’t under estimate how white supremacy/instit. racism have affected our dating/mating lives. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:25 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle yeah, I got that recently from older white gay guy I lived next door “I am part of a major minority”….huh!! (cont) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:32 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud many areas of discussion which are all equally as important. so don’t roll your eyes unless you want me to leave #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:57:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle I am like “you are white and male and upper middle class…you are practically at the top of the hierarchy #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:42 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud it’s SO frustrating,but,yes,there’s privilege even among the “minority” groups. ppl don’t address that #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:48 |
| EddieN120 | Let me ask a personal question: did your parents object to you dating someone of one of your races, or did they not care? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:54 |
| swirlinc | It’s hard to believe that this hour went by so quickly! Thank you all! Please offer your final thoughts and see you next time! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:58:58 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EvaZelle hahaha “don’t roll your eyes unless you want me to leave” ..can I use that sometime? #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:03 |
| onlyONscripting | Great chat! I foresee this topic being discussed again! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:30 |
| EvaZelle | @KathrinOutLoud please do! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:40 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @EddieN120 the only time my parents objected was when I dated an Iranian. My dad is an Army officer #swirlchat |
Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:52 |
| kadavids | It’s also interesting when it’s interracial and international. So many stereotypes overlooked cuz only considered “American” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:59:57 |
| KathrinOutLoud | RT @kadavids: It’s also interesting when it’s interracial and international. So many stereotypes overlooked cuz only considered “American” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:08 |
| jenkchau | @onlyONscripting I think you are right! Such a rich conversation! Thank you everyone! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:12 |
| EddieN120 | That was a quick hour! We only scratched the surface re: our IR dating horror stories! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:21 |
| EvaZelle | fantastic chat, y’all. and definitely need to have a LGBT mixie one #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:25 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 Absolutely…we can do a part two! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:00:35 |
| EddieN120 | At least a part two,three, and four! We need a mini-series to tackle this fully LOL #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:14 |
| kadavids | @eddien120 What a trigger question at the end of the hour ;-). Don’t care, thankfully. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:16 |
| KathrinOutLoud | See you all in two weeks! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:18 |
| ITYCPODCAST | @swirlinc Thanks for the great #swirlchat! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:21 |
| lecanardzero | RT @kadavids: It’s also interesting when it’s interracial and international. So many stereotypes overlooked cuz only considered “American” #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:38 |
| FairOpportunity | Great chat! Be good and free y’all! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:44 |
| EvaZelle | Co-sign! RT @EddieN120: At least a part two,three, and four! We need a mini-series to tackle this fully LOL #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:01:58 |
| kadavids | Chat in two weeks Swirlies! Thanks for moderating @jenkchau! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:02 |
| jenkchau | @KathrinOutLoud See you in 2 wks! And if you or Corina (since u mentioned) want to moderate a queer IR dating chat, hit me up! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:30 |
| EddieN120 | All east coast Swirlies, take care this weekend as Hurricane Irene blows through! Peace y’all! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:31 |
| Dor_i_an | @ITYCPODCAST @KathrinOutLoud tackling race with dialogue is a great place to start. #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:43 |
| KathrinOutLoud | @jenkchau I think that would be great!! @EvaZelle #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:02:50 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau I think that should def. be the next Swirl Book Club read:) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:07 |
| EvaZelle | Yes. RT @jenkchau: @KathrinOutLoud if you or Corina (since u mentioned) want to moderate a queer IR dating chat, hit me up! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:07 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an I agree! That’s what Swirl is all about! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:07 |
| jenkchau | @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud Ok – will be in touch to plan! #swirlchat Great!!! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:29 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an Yet another plan! 🙂 What a productive #swirlchat ! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:03:58 |
| Dor_i_an | @swirlinc why it flew by. I think we need to keep talking about race so we can learn & grow. Thanks for today’s discussion:) #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:04:23 |
| EvaZelle | sounds great. RT @jenkchau: @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud Ok – will be in touch to plan! #swirlchat Great!!! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:04:26 |
| KathrinOutLoud | Sweet…works for me! RT @jenkchau: @EvaZelle @KathrinOutLoud Ok – will be in touch to plan! #swirlchat Great!!! | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:04:56 |
| EddieN120 | These chats always throw up such rich ideas for further exploration. Gotta love it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:05:04 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau @swirlinc It was a great #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:05:20 |
| jenkchau | @Dor_i_an In part due to your presence! Keep comin’ back, lady! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:05:41 |
| jenkchau | @EddieN120 Thanks Eddie…you’re an important voice that adds to the richness! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:06:01 |
| kadavids | +10 RT @EddieN120: These chats always throw up such rich ideas for further exploration. Gotta love it! #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:06:07 |
| Dor_i_an | @jenkchau thanks hun. I will be back for the next #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:06:36 |
| EddieN120 | Thank you @jenkchau & @swirlinc for the kind comments. You know I don’t need much of an excuse to sound off on stuff! 🙂 #swirlchat | Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:07:21 |
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